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RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:52 am
by georgetanksherman
Currently researching RCAF 413 Squadron, CWGC list 8 individuals who were killed while in the 413, but can not find any causes of death. Would appreciate any help and assistance if it is available
Unknown Cause of Death
August 3, 1942
Sgt I.R.E. Meiklejohn, 613862, RAF, Edinburgh, Scotland (Air Gunner)
February 7, 1943
LAC J.C. Milner, 18105A, RCAF, Windsor, Ontario, Canada (Ground Crew)
February 15, 1943
F/O R.S.E. Greenway, J/6399, RCAF, Simpson, Saskatchewan, Canada (Pilot)
June 23, 1943
Sgt J. Alexander, R/52619, RCAF, Merriton, Ontario, Canada
August 20, 1943
Flt Lt S.S. Williams J/15283, RCAF, Oak Lake, Manitoba, Canada
January 13, 1944
Corp W.L Johnston, R/128088, RCAF, Zealandia, Saskatchewan, Canada
September 14, 1944
F/O R.J. Brown, J/36417, RCAF, Langham, Saskatchewan, Canada
December 3, 1944
LAC C.S. Bascom, R/149140, RCAF, Stirling, Alberta, Canada
Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:55 am
by georgetanksherman
Also have Catalina, AH561, August 13, 1942 listed as lost with the RCAF 413 Squadron, crew not listed on CWGC or CVWM, so assuming the crew might have been captured
Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:09 am
by Temujin
georgetanksherman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:52 am
Currently researching RCAF 413 Squadron, CWGC list 8 individuals who were killed while in the 413, but can not find any causes of death. Would appreciate any help and assistance if it is available
Unknown Cause of Death
August 3, 1942
Sgt I.R.E. Meiklejohn, 613862, RAF, Edinburgh, Scotland (Air Gunner)
February 7, 1943
LAC J.C. Milner, 18105A, RCAF, Windsor, Ontario, Canada (Ground Crew)
Air Frame Mechanic, his rank was Cpl. Death caused by asphyxiation due to petrol fumes.
February 15, 1943
F/O R.S.E. Greenway, J/6399, RCAF, Simpson, Saskatchewan, Canada (Pilot)
KIA, Navigator, Target - Trappes, France, 156 Squadron. Halifax aircraft #LK 875, missing during a night attack against Trappes.
June 23, 1943
Sgt J. Alexander, R/52619, RCAF, Merriton, Ontario, Canada
Armourer. Death by natural causes
August 20, 1943
Flt Lt S.S. Williams J/15283, RCAF, Oak Lake, Manitoba, Canada
Navigator, F/L Williams was drowned when a boat capsized in Koggala Lake.
January 13, 1944
Corp W.L Johnston, R/128088, RCAF, Zealandia, Saskatchewan, Canada
Aero Engine Tech, Death by natural causes while in the Indian General Hospital, Colombo
September 14, 1944
F/O R.J. Brown, J/36417, RCAF, Langham, Saskatchewan, Canada
Death by natural causes
December 3, 1944
LAC C.S. Bascom, R/149140, RCAF, Stirling, Alberta, Canada
Electrician, Death by drowning
Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:17 am
by Temujin
georgetanksherman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:55 am
Also have Catalina, AH561, August 13, 1942 listed as lost with the RCAF 413 Squadron, crew not listed on CWGC or CVWM, so assuming the crew might have been captured
My initial find on this is:
AH561 went with 413 Squadron to the Far East and was shot down by Japanese aircraft on 9 April 1942 while shadowing a Japanese carrier force off Ceylon.
But let me check further on this one to confirm as dates do not match
Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:13 am
by Temujin
Temujin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:17 am
georgetanksherman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:55 am
Also have Catalina, AH561, August 13, 1942 listed as lost with the RCAF 413 Squadron, crew not listed on CWGC or CVWM, so assuming the crew might have been captured
My initial find on this is:
AH561 went with 413 Squadron to the Far East and was shot down by Japanese aircraft on 9 April 1942 while shadowing a Japanese carrier force off Ceylon.
But let me check further on this one to confirm as dates do not match
OK, I’m pretty sure it was this aircraft and crew. I haven’t been able to confirm the Aircraft No......possibly our resident expert Ludford will help with this:
9-4-1942
No.413 Sqn RCAF
Catalina I : QL-Y
Took off Koggala, 0256. At 0716 reported the position and speed of a large enemy force, but before his message was completed, was shot down by two A6Ms, which had taken off from 'Hiryu' at 0600, flown by NAP 1/C Hino and NA 1/C Kotani.
Crew (Alpha order):
645247 Sgt Patrick BOURKE RAF +
100541 F/O Roderick Kenneth BOURNE RAFVR +
747910 F/Sgt Cecil Charles GURNEY RAFVR +
J/4699 F/O (Nav.) Robert Gibson HERVEY RCAF +
R/91031 Sgt John Kenneth HOOPER RCAF +
915310 Sgt Derek Laxton HOUSLEY RAFVR +
938960 Sgt John Denzil Marcus MOXHAM RAFVR +
40444 F/L (Pilot) Rae THOMAS DFC RAF +
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This South African record notes a “different” AC # than what you posted. Not sure if this is correct (the aircraft number).....again hopefully Ludford will be able to assist to make sure we have the correct aircraft
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Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:34 am
by Temujin
John Kenneth Hooper
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Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:47 am
by Temujin
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Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:55 am
by Temujin
georgetanksherman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:52 am
Currently researching RCAF 413 Squadron, CWGC list 8 individuals who were killed while in the 413, but can not find any causes of death. Would appreciate any help and assistance if it is available
Unknown Cause of Death
August 3, 1942
Sgt I.R.E. Meiklejohn, 613862, RAF, Edinburgh, Scotland (Air Gunner)
From record below he was Killed by a “blue on blue” encounter with Fleet Air Arm Fulmars
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Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:36 pm
by georgetanksherman
Temujin, Thank You so much for the info, I really appreciate your help, but that raises another question, how can the same aircraft be a write off, then later fly again ??? I am guessing that the aircraft was raised, put back together, and put back in the air:
Catalina, QL- F (W8434), January 2, 1942
Aircraft was taking off for a night solo flight in the area of Sullom Voe when it struck a beacon attached to a rock, the aircraft after striking the beacon, lost control and crashed, the aircraft was a total write off, but there were no injuries.
Catalina QL-F (W8434) August, 3, 1942
Aircraft attacked by friendly fire, killing one and wounding 3
Re: RCAF 413 Squadron ... Unknowns
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:44 pm
by Temujin
georgetanksherman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:36 pm
Temujin, Thank You so much for the info, I really appreciate your help, but that raises another question, how can the same aircraft be a write off, then later fly again ??? I am guessing that the aircraft was raised, put back together, and put back in the air:
Catalina, QL- F (W8434), January 2, 1942
Aircraft was taking off for a night solo flight in the area of Sullom Voe when it struck a beacon attached to a rock, the aircraft after striking the beacon, lost control and crashed, the aircraft was a total write off, but there were no injuries.
Catalina QL-F (W8434) August, 3, 1942
Aircraft attacked by friendly fire, killing one and wounding 3
I’m sorry, what aircraft are we talking about?? I didn’t research the aircraft above.....so not sure what your saying?? Sorry