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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:25 pm
CanadianTanker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:05 pm
Temujin, thank you for the staggering amount of information. Time to have a beverage and do some reading. Based on the information that I have and that you have on line, I'm counting 14 LCT's or 5 LCT groups missing in the berthing documentation. Dare I say would it be safe to assume that all of the groups that were to assault would be berthed together?
Sorry, I’m not sure of what “missing in the berthing documentation” information you are looking for. If you can be more specific I can researched.
Secondly, YES you are correct. Groupings of LCT’s would have been berthed together prior to sailing.
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by CanadianTanker » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:29 pm
Thanks. Group 333 = LCT405,Group 332 = LCT65,199,238. The following groups must be in the same zone Group 311(a),312(b),315(a),313(a), 315(c) with a total of 14 actual LCT's within those groups. Reviewing this site it appears you are the guru or wizard of finding information. I do have a needle in a haystack I am looking for....
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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:29 pm
So follow up on above.
What I meant was Group 311a would have been berthed together and sailed together
AND Group 315a would have been berthed together.
I’m not positive “where” each of the Groups would have been berth, but I can research the documents to find this if you need the info. Many LCT’s were berth at Queens Dock in Southampton, but I would have to research further to see if these two groups were berthed their or another location
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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:37 pm
CanadianTanker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:29 pm
Thanks. Group 333 = LCT405,Group 332 = LCT65,199,238. The following groups must be in the same zone Group 311(a),312(b),315(a),313(a), 315(c) with a total of 14 actual LCT's within those groups. Reviewing this site it appears you are the guru or wizard of finding information. I do have a needle in a haystack I am looking for....
Let me check the above out for you
For Group 311a here’s is where they were held

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For Group 315a, there were berthed in another location as shown on this document

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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:43 pm
CanadianTanker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:29 pm
Thanks. Group 333 = LCT405,Group 332 = LCT65,199,238. The following groups must be in the same zone Group 311(a),312(b),315(a),313(a), 315(c) with a total of 14 actual LCT's within those groups. Reviewing this site it appears you are the guru or wizard of finding information. I do have a needle in a haystack I am looking for....
Here’s the berthing location for Groups 322 and Group 333

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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:37 pm
Temujin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:16 am
Here’s the landing table that show each of the Serials, where they loaded, and WHEN they loaded.
NOTE: if it says D MINUS 3 for example, this means they load 3 DAY PRIOR to D DAY.......but ALSO REMEMBER, D Day was “planned” for the 5th June, and was delayed 24 hours due to the weather.......so this means that they ACTUALLY LOAD 4 DAYS prior to D Day......etc on the other table
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Just a quick follow up. In the documents above, it tells you which “hards” that the LCT’s were loaded at. Here’s a map that shows the location of these hards (in red circle)......Just NORTH of AREA 24 on the Southampton Berthing Plan:

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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:45 pm
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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:13 pm
More info on Berth 43, Ocean Dock, Southampton

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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:25 pm
This is the Tank we are talking about??

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by Temujin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:32 pm
Just to confirm.....are the Markings on this Tank Correct????
Meaning that on Landing on D Day it was part of Regimental HQ’s????

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