Researching the 2 LAA and 2 HAA Regiment RCA

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Re: Researching the 2 LAA and 2 HAA Regiment RCA

Post by Temujin » Mon May 27, 2019 12:14 pm

Troopship, SS Pasteur taking on fuel in Halifax during WWII, 1942. Due to her speed, as a troop transporter, the Pasteur normally made her crossings alone, not as a member of a convoy (without a warship escort)
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PASTEUR / BREMEN / REGINA MAGNA / SAUDI PHIL I / SAUDI FILIPINAS I 1938 The PASTEUR was a 29,253 gross ton ship, built by Chantiers et Ateliers de St Nazaire in 1938 for the French company, Compagnie de Navigation Sud Atlantique. Her details were - length overall 696.9ft x beam 90.2ft, one funnel, two masts, quadruple screw and a speed of 26 knots. There was accommodation designed for 275-1st class, 126-2nd and 338-3rd class passengers. Launched on Feb.15th 1938 by Madame Pasteur Vallery-Radot, wife of the grandson of Louis Pasteur and intended for the Bordeaux - South America service, her maiden voyage was delayed by the outbreak of fire while fitting out. The maiden voyage was re-scheduled for September, but the declaration of war forced cancellation and the ship was laid up at Saint Nazaire. On June 1st 1940 she loaded 400 tons of gold from the reserve of the Banque de France and sailed unescorted to Halifax, where she was requisitioned by the British government after the fall of France. Placed under the management of Cunard-White Star Line, she was converted to a troopship and was one of the few fast transports that could cross the Atlantic in small, unescorted, fast convoys. In October 1941 she made a voyage from Glasgow to Halifax with a varied complement, including officers arranging the transport of 20,000 British troops across Canada and the Pacific to Singapore. In 1943 she visited Freetown, Capetown, Durban, Aden and Port Tewfik and then back to the Clyde and Halifax. Before the battle of Alamein she had carried 10,000 men of the British 8th Army and 5,000 men of the US 1st Army Corps. During the war she had carried 220,000 troops and 30,000 wounded and steamed 370,669 miles. After the war she repatriated US and Canadian troops and in June 1945 she was returned to France and carried French troops to Indo-China and was used as a troopship until 1957 when she was laid up at Brest. Purchased by North German Lloyd of Bremen in Sept.1957, she was extensively rebuilt to 32,336 tons, given accommodation for 216-1st and 906-tourist class passengers, and renamed BREMEN. She commenced Bremen - Southampton - Cherbourg - New York voyages on 9th July 1959 and continued this service, with some cruising voyages until 1971 when she was sold to Chandris Lines and renamed REGINA MAGNA. Used for cruising until Oct.1974 when she was laid up at Piraeus until 1977 when she was sold to Saudi Arabia and renamed SAUDI PHIL I. She was moored at Jeddah as an accommodation ship for Phillipine stevedores working at the port. Renamed SAUDI FILIPINAS I in 1978, she was eventually sold to Taiwanese shipbreakers in 1980. She left Jeddah in tow of the Panamanian tug SUMATRA for Kaohsiung, but developed a heavy list in bad weather, and on June 9th 1980 she sank in the Arabian Sea. [Steamers of the Past by J.H.Isherwood, Sea Breezes magazine, April 1984]
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Re: Researching the 2 LAA and 2 HAA Regiment RCA

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Re: Researching the 2 LAA and 2 HAA Regiment RCA

Post by Temujin » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:38 pm

Filip.......I”m still looking for the Convoy that D. Leonine was on. Unfortunately I’ve searched two files (over 4000 pages per file, and each has to be gone thru “page by page”), and I haven’t found the correct date or convoy or ship, BUT

Their is a “missing file” that “may” contain the info we are looking for. I just sent a request to Heritage Canadiana to find out “where is this file” and if it’s digitized, if I could have access to it. We’ll have to wait and see what they have to say on it.

I’ll keep you informed

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Re: Researching the 2 LAA and 2 HAA Regiment RCA

Post by Temujin » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:26 am

Temujin wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:38 pm
Filip.......I”m still looking for the Convoy that D. Leonine was on. Unfortunately I’ve searched two files (over 4000 pages per file, and each has to be gone thru “page by page”), and I haven’t found the correct date or convoy or ship, BUT

Their is a “missing file” that “may” contain the info we are looking for. I just sent a request to Heritage Canadiana to find out “where is this file” and if it’s digitized, if I could have access to it. We’ll have to wait and see what they have to say on it.

I’ll keep you informed

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Filip, I relieved an answer from Heritage Canadiana (answer below). I will go ahead and request digitization of this real
  • Good morning,

    Thank you for your email. Reel C-5614 appears in Library and Archives Canada Directorate of Movement collection (lac_mikan_135140). Unfortunately, this reel has not yet been digitised as part of the Héritage project. It is, however, 'Open' and thus available to be digitised. Below is the process to request that digitisation.

    Alternatively, if you are available to travel to Ottawa, you can view the microfilm reel in person at Library and Archives Canada (LAC) on Wellington St. Please see the Ordering and Viewing Options tab here: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/assistance ... uesttype=2.

    To request that a reel be digitised, please fill in the reproduction order form here: https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/cop ... 5100-e.php. There is no cost for this request. Please note under special instructions that you would like the Canadian Research Knowledge Network to digitize and upload the reel and we will then be able to process and upload it to Héritage. This process can take up to 12 weeks while LAC retrieve the reel and it goes through the digitization and cataloguing process.

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Re: Researching the 2 LAA and 2 HAA Regiment RCA

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Temujin wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:26 am
Temujin wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:38 pm
Filip.......I”m still looking for the Convoy that D. Leonine was on. Unfortunately I’ve searched two files (over 4000 pages per file, and each has to be gone thru “page by page”), and I haven’t found the correct date or convoy or ship, BUT

Their is a “missing file” that “may” contain the info we are looking for. I just sent a request to Heritage Canadiana to find out “where is this file” and if it’s digitized, if I could have access to it. We’ll have to wait and see what they have to say on it.

I’ll keep you informed

Cheers
Filip, I relieved an answer from Heritage Canadiana (answer below). I will go ahead and request digitization of this real
  • Good morning,

    Thank you for your email. Reel C-5614 appears in Library and Archives Canada Directorate of Movement collection (lac_mikan_135140). Unfortunately, this reel has not yet been digitised as part of the Héritage project. It is, however, 'Open' and thus available to be digitised. Below is the process to request that digitisation.

    Alternatively, if you are available to travel to Ottawa, you can view the microfilm reel in person at Library and Archives Canada (LAC) on Wellington St. Please see the Ordering and Viewing Options tab here: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/assistance ... uesttype=2.

    To request that a reel be digitised, please fill in the reproduction order form here: https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/cop ... 5100-e.php. There is no cost for this request. Please note under special instructions that you would like the Canadian Research Knowledge Network to digitize and upload the reel and we will then be able to process and upload it to Héritage. This process can take up to 12 weeks while LAC retrieve the reel and it goes through the digitization and cataloguing process.
ORDERED........note as per above, it may take a few months to get the information

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Re: Researching the 2 LAA and 2 HAA Regiment RCA

Post by Temujin » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:36 pm

Boy, I have to say I’m impressed by LAC’s response time on this. I sent the “order request” this morning, and recieved a response this afternoon telling me they have instruction Heritage Canadiana to go ahead with digitizing the file and putting it up on their website, which will take approx 12 weeks.

As soon as I know the reel is on the site, I’ll research it for the ship and hopefully your relatives name


This email is in regard to your recent copy request for the following material:

TITLE/DESCRIPTION: Directorate of Movements (DMOVE) between 1939 and 1948.
REFERENCE NUMBER: Reel C-5614 appears in Library and Archives Canada Directorate of Movement collection (lac_mikan_135140). Series part ofDepartment of National Defence fonds [multiple media] (R112-0-2-E)

As you know, Library and Archives Canada (LAC) has a partnership with the Canadian Research Knowledge Network (formerly known as Canadiana.org) to have its microfilm reel collection digitized. Since you’ve indicated that you would like to take advantage of the free digitization of this reel, we’ve requested that they place a priority on the reel and to make it available on their website within 12 weeks. Once it has been digitized, you will be able to perform a search on their website by simply entering the reel number in the search field.

If a reel does not appear online in 12 weeks or if you have any questions, please contact Beth Stover at the Canadian Research Knowledge Network by email at bstover@crkn.ca or by phone at (613) 907-7023.

Please note that any material provided online by LAC is restricted to research purposes or private study only. Users wishing to use the copies for any other purpose should inform themselves of Copyright regulations. Please do not hesitate to contact Copyright Services if you have any questions relating to copyright. You can reach them at bac.droitdauteur-copyright.lac@canada.ca

Should you have any questions regarding our reprography services, please feel free to contact us for more information. We may be reached at bac.reproduction.lac@canada.ca, or by phone at 1-866-578-7777, option 4.

Thank you,
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suzanne.lemaire@canada.ca / Tel: 613-286-9525 / TTY:613-995-6274

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